Looking back at the 2020 presidential campaign, listen to his conversation Michael had with political analyst Mark Halperin, author of "How To Beat Trump: Americas Top Political Strategists on What It Will Take." Drawing on dramatic and illuminating war stories from presidential campaigns past, America’s top political operatives explain how to meet the daunting challenge of beating Trump, who is one of the most talented pure political campaigners in modern history. Original air date 29 October 2019. The book was published on 29 October 2019.