As kids go back to school, this is the perfect time to listen to Michael's conversation with NY Times best-selling author Amanda Ripley, on her book "The Smartest Kids in the World: And How They Got That Way." Listen to find out how other countries make "smarter kids" - Amanda Ripley followed three American families in three different countries for a year. Original air date 2 September 2014. The paperback version of the book was published on 29 July 2014.